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Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« on: October 16, 2009, 11:25:25 AM »
OK, after getting port forwarding to work for torrents and Xbox Live, my Xbox xan no longer detect my PC at all?  It sees my modem just fine, and connects to XBL fine, but it no longer can tell that my PC is even hooked up, so I can't stream music/video.  I've even tried turning off all the new port forwarding, but even that doesn't seem to help?

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2009, 12:14:24 PM »
I will make sure Evan gets to you on this, good luck!  ;D

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2009, 09:26:09 AM »
Just to make sure are you trying to run Windows Media Center on your 360 or just access files on a computer?  Remember, if you are wanting to run Media Center on the 360 you have a Windows computer that is running Media Center since the 360 only acts as an extender.

I need to know what OS you are running on the computer with Media Center (if this is a Media Center issue)?  Are you running XP Media Center edition, Vista Home Premium, or Vista Ultimate?  I need to know that first.

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2009, 12:24:01 PM »
Sorry, was confused on Media enter terminology.  I'm just trying to access files on my PC through he Library menus, not use the media Center program.  I'm running XP pro.  The Xbox no longer sees the computer, period.

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2009, 07:17:09 AM »
No problem with the confusion bud, I just needed to know specifically if you were trying to share media with or without Media Center.

If you Xbox 360 no longer sees the computer at all then the problem is your computer isn't set up to share or the router is blocking it for some reason.  Lets make sure your computer is set up right then we will move on to the router.

Were you able to fully see and stream content before?  If you were then did you change anything on the computer side when trying to get the router resolved (firewalls, shares, etc...)?

Microsoft/Xbox has guidance on what you need to download and steps to get media sharing working here.  Can you take a look at that and see if that helps?

If your router has a UPnP option then that should handle the bulk of this (but that would have also handled your Xbox Live issue).  Just make sure to make note of whatever changes you make so if you need to "roll back" anything you can.
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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2009, 08:22:19 AM »
The xbox was able to stream before I started port forwarding.  I've gone through everything the MS/Xbox sites has to offer to no avail.


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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2009, 07:31:16 AM »
Do you have any other computers on your network that can see the media you are trying to share?  I ask because your issue is that your computer needs to share it's media.  The 360 should "see it" when it is sharing so if you are able to test using another computer that will help me narrow things down a bit.

In your previous thread you said you were running the following script
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Xbox media center- To help strem form my PC
That script is for Media Center...which isn't what you are trying to do so you need to clear that script out of the router.

I'm looking for the correct ports to check against the available scripts but haven't found it yet.  In the meantime you could try the XBConnect Script but that might be for the original Xbox.  If it doesn't work then just clear it.  Let me know where you stand after all that.

Also, are you running Windows Media Player 11?  You need that version for this.

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2009, 08:02:46 AM »
Hey guys  ;D

I just wanted to throw a little info out there that might help.
Evan keep in mind that it worked for him before the port forwarding. Which port forwarding shouldn't have anything to do with it since it is on the local network and not coming in from the internet.

However since I don't own a xbox I am going to come at this from a computers point of view.

If there a way to check what ip or computer name the xbox is trying to connect to? also on the computer make sure the windows firewall simply isn't getting in the way.
Also a little trick, change the name of the computer. It is possible that the DNS in the xbox is converting the computer name to a old IP. If you change the computer name and have the xbox look for that you know it will get the right IP since the name is new.

Another thing to try, can you ping the xbox from the PC? make sure they can simply see each other.

oh yeah I am moving this thread to another forum area hehe

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2009, 08:20:25 AM »
Hey there buddy!  Let me address some of your questions...
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If there a way to check what ip or computer name the xbox is trying to connect to?
No, not really because the 360 just looks for Windows Media Player 11.  So that has to be set up correctly (look here for detailed instructions)
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also on the computer make sure the windows firewall simply isn't getting in the way.
The previous suggestion will handle everything in Windows Firewall
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Another thing to try, can you ping the xbox from the PC?
Yeah...that would be a great place to start
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oh yeah I am moving this thread to another forum area hehe
But why?? lol

Let us know where you stand after you've tried all this degamer.

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2009, 09:17:18 AM »
Alright man,  I don't know where you are in your trouble shooting right now but I finally found detailed instructions specific to your problem (Troubleshooting: Xbox 360 can't connect to your PC). This goes over everything that has been said already but it is clear and concise and in a specific order.

Please make sure you follow each of those steps and tell us where you stand.  We can move forward if those steps do not resolve your problem.

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2009, 11:52:09 AM »
OK, lets try and do this in order.  :D

There are no other computers on the network.

I have cleared the Media center script from the router.

I have not tried the xbconnect script yet.

I am using WMP11.

Sharing in WMP11 is on, the Xbox is listed, with a green check.

Pinging the xbox failed.

How would I go about changing the computers name?

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2009, 12:02:12 PM »
Okay, Great! Now we are getting somewhere.  ;D

Great to see that WMP11 is on, the 360 is listed, and has a green check.  It at least looks like everything is working on the computer side but we can't be sure.

Lets hold off on changing the computer name for now.

The 1st step was to ping your Xbox 360 so we need to figure out why that isn't working.  Are you sure you have the right IP address for use with the ping?  If you are then why don't we try connecting the Xbox 360 directly to the PC (leaving the router out of the picture).  Try that set up and see if you can ping the Xbox.

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2009, 12:11:49 PM »
Also, just to make sure.  You are using the new Xbox 360 interface (known as "NXE") aren't you.  Here is a pic of the old dashboard then the new one.

In other words...NXE is the one with the Avatars.  I ask because I've heard of people having issues after updating (granted this update came about a year ago, but I'm not going to make any assumptions).

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2009, 12:47:59 PM »
Yes, been using NXE since I got the xbox.

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Re: Port forwarding aftermath: PC disapears off X-box network?
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2009, 12:50:50 PM »
I pinged the IP address listed in the xbox basic settings.

Unfortunately I have no way of hooking up the xbox through a cable, it's many rooms away form the PC.

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