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Offline drewblack9

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IDE laptop drive
« on: April 16, 2009, 01:58:11 PM »
I just put a laptop IDE hard drive in an external case for a friend because her laptop is shot but she still wants to have access to her files.  When I navigate to her documents it says:


J:/Documents and settings/Owner is not accessible
Access is denied


Why?
-Drew

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I just told it to share the
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 02:00:43 PM »
I just told it to share the folder, it said that it couldn't, then it said it was setting the permissions, then I could get into the folder just fine.
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Nevermind now I can get in to
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2009, 02:07:17 PM »
Nevermind now I can get in to the Owner folder and the My Documents folder but everything inside of there gives me the same error message.
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I unshared the Owner folder
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2009, 02:15:18 PM »
I unshared the Owner folder now i can't get into that.




Any ideas?
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that error means she had her
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 02:28:00 PM »
that error means she had her account password protected so the files owner has changed. you need to retake owner ship of the files.

Are you on xp home, pro or vista?
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Shane's right. It's an
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2009, 03:16:53 PM »
Shane's right.  It's an ownership issue (very annoying in these cases).  In the end you'll have to "take ownership" which is different than the "sharing" aspect. Both come from using NTFS instead of FAT file systems, but thats beyond the issue at hand.

We need to know what OS the computer is that has the HDD attached to it (the working machine) in order to walk you through how to take ownership.

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her laptop ran xp. Will I
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2009, 03:36:06 PM »
her laptop ran xp (i think Home).  Will I have to put the hard drive back in her computer before I can do that?  Because, I don't have her PC on hand.
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Nope
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2009, 03:39:28 PM »
no, to get the files will be easy.

Once I know your OS I can give screen shots.
But basically you plug the drive into your system, browse to the folder you need access to, right click, go to properties. go to security. Then the owners tab and retake ownership. You have to turn off simple file sharing in xp to get the security tab.

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Remember, the OS of the HDD
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2009, 03:49:21 PM »
Remember, the OS of the HDD doesn't matter.  You have to take ownership with the computer that you currently have the old HDD connected to.  The process is the same in XP or Vista, the path to get there is just a little different.  The files are basically sayiing I belong to "Mary" and when the HDD is hooked up to "Mary's" computer there is no problem.  When you hook it up to your machine, your machine says "I'm Drew" now open, the file retorts "You're not Mary, Acess Denied!".  Following what Shane said, you will change the security settings so that the file no longer says "I belong to Mary" and then you have control.

You typically don't see the issue on a multi-user machine because the files are created with the "Everyone" (instead of just "Drew") group as having access.  When you put the HDD in another computer NOTHING matches (strictly speaking in terms of security).

Just wanted to give a little more info for anyone wanting to know "why"?

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Yeah, I think I got it. It is
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2009, 03:50:39 PM »
Yeah, I think I got it. It is setting permissions now.

Thanks.
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Actually he is able to access
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2009, 04:05:23 PM »
Actually he is able to access other files on the drive. The reason those files where blocked was because she had put a password on her system and when she created one it asks do you want to protect your files. So the user profile (My Docs, Fav, ect.) all get protected and the owner is changed.

This happens even on multi user. If there is no password, or if the person says no to protecting the files you wont get the problem.

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True True. That is what I
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2009, 04:40:16 PM »
True True.  That is what I was thinking, but I should have clarified that better.  When I mentioned multi user I was referring to the fact that "Mary" doesn't have trouble with "Mary's" files...assuming that she wouldn't be looking at any other users files.  Looking at another uses files essentially puts you in the same position as putting the HDD in another computer.  Different computer is going to have a different user and so the file won't open (assuming it is protected).

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