It would be better to ask on content server(s) with forum(s)/group(s) that deals with security.
Example(s)
Web based HTTP/HTTPS.
One of them is
DSLR (dslreports.com) -> Forums -> Software and Operating Systems -> SecurityNNTP based.
See and follow
https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm to connect to news.grc.com
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While I do not know everything about security (and trade offs), I can provide examples of that..
#1 Goal(s)
a) As noted at
http://portforward.com/networking/static-ip-ps4/ and
http://portforward.com/networking/staticip-ps3-playstation-3.htm For Play Station it would be NAT Type 2.
b) As noted at
http://portforward.com/networking/staticip-xbox360.htm for the Xbox 360 it would be Xbox LIVE results should be "Connected."
c) As noted at
http://portforward.com/networking/static-ip-xbox-one/ for the Xbox One it would be NAT Type Open.
#2 I have read/heard that if someone only has one Non Bogan IP Address the only way to get more than game console having NAT Type 2 / Xbox LIVE results Connected / Open is to use Universal Plug and Play (UPnP).
#3 I have no idea if what I read/heard is true or not about game consoles, getting NAT Type 2 / Xbox LIVE results Connected / Open, and only one non bogan IP Address.
#4 However, be advised:
a) If UPnP is enabled in the router
b) If an user has UPnP turned on, on their computer (Windows) / system (Xbox)
c) If an user has UPnP allowed by their software firewall on their computer.
d) and if an user has an UPnP aware app (for example uTorrent) on their computer.
Then the user could open port(s) in the router without knowing the router's control log-in!#5 If you find a server that you want to forward for is not UPnP aware, then I point you to
http://www.howtogeek.com/122227/how-to-quickly-forward-ports-on-your-router-from-a-desktop-application/With info about:
UPnP Port Mapper.
#6 If you do not want to use UPnP and you wanted more than one game console having NAT Type 2 / Xbox LIVE results Connected / Open then part of the answer is to get more than one non bogan / Public IP Address.
#7 The above info came from source: The News server
news.grc.com, the news group
grc.securitynow, the thread
upnp appears to be the only solution for multiple gaming consoles, the post by
Bart on
5/2/2009 at
3:16 PM EST.X-URL:
http://www.GRC.com/groups/securitynow:14485Xref: news.grc.com grc.securitynow:14485
X-URL2:
http://12078.net/grcnews/article.php?group=grc.securitynow&id=14485#8 You call it creapy UPnP on LAN, ha - I have heard/read of worse!
a) grc.com -> Services -> Shield's Up -> Press
Proceed -> Press GRC's Instant UPnP Exposure Test.
b) Careful. Just because UPnP is disabled on LAN does not mean it is disabled on WAN too.
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Great / wonderful if your modem combo is in bridge mode and your RJ-45 WAN port router (hardware or software based) is handling the WAN IP, how does one get into the modem combo to see how strong the signal is.
I point to, quote my self, and include the screen shot that I took/provided
(DSLR) -> Forums -> O Canada! -> Canadian -> TekSavvy -> Re: [DSL] How to access a Smart SR505n's web-based GUI while in bridge mode#1 I will repeat what I said in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29982420-Accessing-SmartRG-while-in-Bridged-Mode
I know every single method to get into a modem while it is in bridge mode (not configured to handle a WAN IP)
To OP, besides:
a) what [user=Teddy Boom] says.
Summary: NIC gets disconnected from the RJ-45 WAN router, a static IP is setup on that NIC with-in the same subnet as the modem combo and NIC gets re-connected to the modem combo.
b) Just factory reset it & log in normally
c) And - summary: RJ-45 WAN port router's LAN and the modem combo's LAN are not in the same subnet, your computer must have two NICs (one of them must a wired NIC), the NIC that is connected to the modem combo is in the same subnet as the modem combo LAN IP.
#1 As long as you only need access to the router and the modem in bridge mode without disconnecting your computer from the RJ-45 WAN router:
a) Make sure that the RJ-45 WAN port router's LAN and the modem combo's LAN are not in the same subnet.
For example the RJ-45 router's IP LAN 192.168.1.1 (mask 255.255.255.0) and your modem combo LAN is 192.168.0.1 (mask 255.255.255.0)
b) Setup a Static WAN IP of the RJ-45 router so that is in the same subnet as the modem combo.
For example the RJ-45 router's LAN 192.168.1.1 (mask 255.255.255.0), your modem combo LAN is 192.168.0.1 (mask 255.255.255.0)., and your RJ-45 router's WAN 192.168.0.1 (mask 255.255.255.0)
c) Be strongly advised as long as the RJ-45 router's WAN IP is set to Static and is in the same subnet as the modem combo and this RJ-45 router is not a Dual WAN port router of any kind (RJ-45 WAN1 and RJ-45 WAN2, RJ-45 WAN and 4G/LTE, RJ-45 WAN and POTS dial-up, ETC..) you (and the computers that are behind this RJ-45 WAN port router) are not going to be able to access the Internet!
d) To get back online, you need to change the WAN setting back to what it was before you made it a Static IP with-in the same subnet as the modem combo.
Possible fix #2 (with access to both and online)
Using third party firmware (either with commands and then rebooting the router OR in the UI option of Route Modem IP field) on the router..
Note by commands and then rebooting the router, I mean - (Third party site) <A HREF="http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Access_To_Modem_Configuration" >dd-wrt.com -> Community -> Wiki -> Tutorials (Basic and advanced configuration tasks for your router) -> Access To Modem Configuration[/url]
By UI option Route Modem IP, I mean with this..
Possible fix #3 (with access to both and online) REF http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26752495-
Primary and secondary router's RJ-45 LAN IP in a different subnet than the modem's LAN IP, secondary router's LAN IP with-in the same subnet as the primary router's LAN IP, secondary router's WAN IP with-in the same subnet as the modem's LAN IP, secondary router's DHCP server disabled, and primary router use a static route in this format..
Subnet IP: (the subnet of your modem)
Mask: (the Subnet Mask of the primary and secondary router on the LAN)
Gateway: (the IP address of the secondary router on the LAN)
All of the options/possible fixes above that I have tested and I know that work, the options below I am not sure of.
Possible fix #4 (with access to both)
If I was on PPPoE, I have heard/read...
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26108772-modem-router-How-to-access-6100G-s-interface-while-connected-
Note: How the OP started the thread.
Short summary since all of the info is not in only post..
RJ-45 WAN port router's LAN and the modem combo's LAN are not in the same subnet, RJ-45 WAN port router has WAN port connected to modem combo: as long as the PPPoE connection is down he/she is able to get into the modem combo.
Possible fix #5 (with access to both and online) The answer to the OP's question without adding more hardware (ex a hub/switch between modem combo and router), without loading DD-WRT/Tomato, without changing to Static IP with-in the same subnet (PC OR Router Level) - the post by [user=wayjac] (user #544732)
Direct Link: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,26137687
Short summary:
RJ-45 WAN port router's LAN IP with-in same subnet as the modem combo, RJ-45 WAN port of RJ-45 WAN port router connects to one of the free/not in use RJ-45 LAN ports of the RJ-45 WAN port router, and RJ-45 LAN port of modem combo connects to one of the free/not in use RJ-45 LAN ports of the RJ-45 WAN port router.
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Note if that works: I would think it works for other connections that require a log-in.
Other examples of types of connections that require a log-in are: PPPoA, PPTP, L2TP, and Big Pond.
All of those examples, but not including PPPoA, are as shown at
http://support.dlink.com/emulators/ebr2310_revB/Basic_WAN.html
#2 Also I heard/read (REF = http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26752495- ) that instead of two NAT routers, a Dual WAN port router will work.
Q: Is that true you ask what I was told?
A: I can not tell you because all of my RJ-45 WAN port NAT routers only have one WAN port.