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Installing Windows 7
« on: May 11, 2014, 03:06:27 PM »
Novice Alert! I now have my wife's old XP Laptop. I have a legal Windows 7 disc (from EBay). I have some 'stuff' installed on that laptop. I would now like to install Windows 7. Is all the 'stuff' I have done going bye bye? Does the hard disc need to be formatted? What do I need to watch out for? I have never installed an operating system before.

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Installing Windows 7
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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2014, 10:23:37 AM »
Always backup your data. You could always try to do a upgrade instead, but that is only if you are installing the 32bit version as your XP was 32 bit. If so you can just run the Windows 7 install from the cd right in Windows XP itself and it should tell you if it can do a upgrade or not.

If not then you need to backup your data and do a fresh install. Make sure to download your network card drivers for Windows 7 first so you will be able to install them and get back on the net after the install. Then you can go and download the rest of the drivers you need :-)

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2014, 01:30:55 PM »
I plan to install the 64 bit version since the cpu is 64 bit. I don't really have any data there. I think I'll just need to download and install some software.  How do I go about finding the correct network driver?

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2014, 03:38:16 PM »
You only need to do 64bit if the system has 4GB of ram or more, otherwise just stick with 32 bit :-)

You should be able to find the network driver on the product page from the mfg.

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2014, 12:34:20 AM »
Multiple  questions:

1. Why isn't a 64 bit OS a little better than a 32 bit OS when on a 64 bit cpu regardless of memory size?

2. Will files like downloads still be intact after the change?

3. Will programs (Firefox, Cometbird, OpenOffice, etc) still be intact or will they need to reinstalled?

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2014, 10:29:41 AM »
If you do an upgrade your programs should be intact. If you do a fresh install they wont be, so do a backup no matter what.

Because 64bit OS uses more memory than 32bit as well. The CPU doesn't matter as much as you would think. It just means the processor can handle 64bit operations. Again it just has to do with the supported length of data types.

Also 90% of the programs you use are 32 bit, they run fine on 64bit but normally most are all 32 bit. Firefox, chrome, office, all of them.

So again, unless you have 4 GB of ram or more than just stick with 32bit so you can do the upgrade instead. :wink:

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2014, 07:02:51 AM »
I went to the Dell Driver Downloads. What they list for Operating Systems is: BIOS, MS 2000, MS Vista 32 Bit, MS Vista 64 bit, and XP. Should I assume that (in this instance) Vista and Windows 7 are the same?

Another question; you mentioned the possibility of doing an update from XP to Windows 7 instead of doing a full install. Where do I look to see if that is possible? Somewhere within XP or on the install disc?

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2014, 12:29:28 PM »
Actually 7 wont upgrade from xp, but instead there is a way to get your files and settings off. This should help

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7#T1=tab01

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2014, 11:55:17 PM »
Thanks for the link, I'll try to print that out today. But what about the video driver? Should I go with the Vista 32 bit or stick with the XP version?

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2014, 12:15:12 PM »
No xp driver will work as they changed the drivers starting in vista greatly. Vista drivers have a better chance of working. but chances are we can find Win 7 drivers after all is done :-)

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2014, 09:09:04 AM »
I printed the 17 page tutorial on Upgrading from XP to Windows 7. On the second page it says I'll have to reinstall any programs I want to use. So I'm thinking that just an install of Windows 7 would be easier. I'll download the video driver we discussed and copy my downloads file off to an external drive. Then just use the Windows 7 (32 bit) install disc. Does that sound like a workable plan? Any thing else I need to worry about?

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2014, 09:10:18 AM »
Sounds good. That is how it is done :-)

Just make sure to have network drivers saved to a thumb drive. This way after the install you install the network drivers and you can get back on the internet and then download the rest you need :wink:

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2014, 12:01:01 AM »
What a frustrating day. First I downloaded the video driver we discussed and then downloaded all the programs that I needed to reinstall. Copied all to an external drive. Then began the install. First time I selected wrong option of upgrade (only other option was custom which I figured was beyond my knowledge level). So it went off copying files and going online to look for updates and then informed me it couldn't do that and to start over with Custom. So I did. After a lot of grinding around it informed that it was ended with an error due to missing files  but of course didn't tell me what files. Once more started. This time it ended saying it couldn't open some files. Once more, this time after a lot of time it said I had the wrong disc and to insert a disc so I inserted the 64 bit disc (only disc I had) but it didn't like that one either. So, once more into the breech. Once more it spent a lot of time and  finally wound up with a blank screen with a flashing "Missing operating system" in the upper left corner.

Suggestions? LOL, no fair saying "get a hammer", I already thought of that one.

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2014, 08:46:20 AM »
It is possible the dvd drive isnt liking the disks and so isnt reading the files correctly.

What you want to do is boot off the dvd itself and start the Windows setup, when it comes up choose custom and it is easy from there. When you get to the part where it asks you what drive to install on, click options below it and delete all the partitions that show up so all you have is 1 and it has been deleted. Then select that one, dont format and Windows will do the rest. Doing it this way the whole file system gets remade and should help :-)

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2014, 11:02:21 AM »
So this what I did. Powered off. Powered up while hitting f12. Selected boot from dvd. What I got at that point was an option for 3 things. Windows 7 --- Earlier Version Of Windows --- Windows Setup Rollback.  Had no clue how to proceed.  Sitting there just like that even now at this very moment.

Why can't this crap be a little easier?

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Re: Installing Windows 7
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2014, 11:02:21 AM »