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Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« on: June 14, 2011, 03:37:19 PM »
I am doing my limited knowledge best, but having difficulty setting up port forwarding on my DVR security system.  Can anyone please help clarify some of the information required that is not clearly specified in my DVR instruction manual provided
 
I am setting up this DVR security system through my wireless router (Belkin F5D7234-4 v3).  My cable modem is a Motorola Surfboard SB5101.  The ISP tells me that there is no second/hidden router involved.
 
The laptop computer I am trying to use to access the DVR has an IP address of 192.168.2.3
The DVR security system IP address is 192.168.2.4
The IP Address of the Belkin Router is 192.168.2.5 (using ipconfig to verify)
The Default Gateway IP address of the Belkin Router is 192.168.2.1
The router and the dvr system are both set up using dynamic IP setting.

 
When following the directions of my router to port forward I am instructed to access the Virtual Servers Screen.  When at that screen I am asked for the following specific information:
 
Inbound port:  Is this the media port (9000) or the web port (80) number shown on the network setup screen of the DVR?
 
Type: TCP, UDP or TCP/UDP? The DVR instruction manual and the network setup screen does not specify.

Private IP Address: 192.168.2.?  Is the last number the number from the DVR I'm trying to access or is it the last number from the laptop computer I am trying us use while away? Or am I missing the point completely?

Private Port: Again, is this the media port (9000) or the web port (80) number shown on the network setup screen of the DVR?

Are there any other settings on my router that you might suggest I change to assist in this port forwarding process?

 

At this time I have properly installed dvr software, netviewer, on my computer and am able to access the dvr monitor from any of my computers within my home.  The problem is trying to access the system through netviewer while away from home.  When attempting to log in on another network I get the message login failed.

I have played around with simple port forward but am lacking some understanding.  I have probably invested at least 6 hours off and on trying to figure this out.  Help and some education would be greatly appreciated.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2011, 03:55:54 PM by jafluc1, Reason: added info on IP and IP Address settings »

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Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 03:51:09 PM »
Set the port forwarding rules to point to the IP of the DVR (192.168.2.4)

If your interested this quick read can help explain that.
http://www.pcwintech.com/what-port-forwarding-nutshell

For type just put both to TCP/UDP to be safe.

When on your home network you will connect to the DVR by its local IP. When outside your home you will connect with your internet IP.
Once you have the port forwarding rules done, let me know and I will try to connect and see if it is working for ya :wink:

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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 03:59:21 PM »
Shane,  what about the inbound and private port numbers (media port 9000 or web port 80)?

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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 04:00:19 PM »
Create a port forwarding rule for both. :wink:

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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 04:31:05 PM »
I created two port forward rules, one for port 80 and one for port 9000.  Both were with TCP&UDP selected.  I put the same numbers in both the inbound port as well as the private port column in each rule.  Private IP address is that assigned to the dvr, 198.162.2.4.  simple port testing failed for both.  I went over to my neighbors house with my laptop and was not surprised that  log in failed off my network.

The router is setup with router firewall disabled.  Remote management is set up through remote access port 80.  DMZ is enabled using static IP port 198.162.2.4 (that of the dvr)

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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 04:37:15 PM »
The port tester program is meant to test ports to your computer. SO dont bother with it since we are forwarding to your dvr.

Disable DMZ in the router. That is a forward all ports rule.

Once that is disabled I want you to post a screen shot of the port forwarding page in the router.
Then I would also like a screen shot of the network setup page in the DVR.

This way I can check everything :wink:

You can post the pictures under "Attachments and other options" when posting :wink:

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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 10:08:39 PM »
DMZ Disabled.  Screenshots attached.  Netviewer dvr setup page transferred info to word document.  Could not figure out how to do screenshot directly.

In addition to not being able to login to the dvr, I am not able to access my router from out of my network.  When I type in 192.168.2.1 from outside my network it does not access the router.  I thought I had that setup to do so within the router under system settings where it allows remote management by any IP address through remote access port 80.

Really appreciate your assistance.  I think I understand the process much better that I am attempting to complete, but still no results.
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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2011, 08:32:25 AM »
Local IPs such as 192.168.2.1 can only be accessed when your behind the router. They can not be accessed from the internet. You use your internet IP to do that. :wink:

By any chance can you take a picture of the network setup screen in the dvr? this way I can make sure the network info is correct.

Also if you have your router set for remote access make sure it is using a different port than 80. Port 80 is being used by the dvr.

Another thing as well, a lot of ISP's block port 80. They dont like people hosting things. So you may need to change the http port in your dvr from 80 to 8080 and then update the port forwarding rule :wink:

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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2011, 12:23:02 PM »
Shane, I changed the web port 00080 to 08080 in the netviewer program setup and did the same on the port forward rule in the router.  Had no effect on being able to login away from the home network.  I was able to capture the screenshots for the router on my last reply but could not do so with the netviewer program page. 

Figured out how to capture the pages from netviewer and post them on the two attached word documents. 
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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2011, 12:27:55 PM »
Ah! Didn't see the doc lol

Does the dvr make you have the leading 0's?

Normally it should be 8080 not 08080 (Unless the DVR makes you have it that way)

Are you able to view the DVR in IE on your home machine? http://192.168.2.4:8080

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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2011, 02:19:06 PM »
changed dvr addresses to 9000 and 8080 by eliminating the lead 0 within the dvr.  I was able to view the netviewer login page from the web address  you provided http://192.168.2.4:8080/ using IE. However I can only access that web application page from within my own network.  going over to my neighbors connection yielded the same result.  I can get to the login page but the login fails. 

Did you see the updated screen shots in doc format.  I will reattach here.

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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2011, 05:16:27 PM »
Looks like that extra 0 was the problem. I can now connect to you.

When you go to your neighbors you cant use the local IP. You need to use the internet IP.
Before you head over look here
http://www.pcwintech.com/myip

Write down your internet IP then go to your neighbors and give it another try. make sure to have the :8080 to it of course. :wink:

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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2011, 09:01:30 PM »
Shane,

You did it.  No way do I get this done on my own.  In fact, I am now over 48 hours with no response from a technical assistance email I sent to Belkin as well as the manufacturer of this dvr unit.  For those who may look at this link, the dvr security system is sold through Harbor Freight Tools.  Manufacturers instruction on port forwarding pretty much tells you to find someone who knows what they are doing and have them set it up.

Had you not also told me to access the site using Internet Explorer I would have run into a road block.  I use Chrome as my browser and cannot get into the dvr with that browser. 

Again, thank you very much for your patience and efforts is assisting me with this issue.  You have made an old man very happy, not to mention allowing me to save face with my dear wife.

If you are near San Antonio TX, let me treat you to a good dinner.

Joe

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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2011, 09:04:50 PM »
Good to hear it is working for you :cheesy:

Since your all fixed I will lock this thread :wink:

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Re: Port forward Belkin router with DVR security system
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2011, 09:04:50 PM »

 

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