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Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« on: March 04, 2011, 02:11:59 PM »
Hey guys, so I am trying to set up a minecraft server on my computer to allow myself and my friends play on our own private server.

I used your Simple Port Forwarding program to open up port 25565 on my lynksis router, and all the settings were changed successfully. However, my port isn't detected as open when I use the port checker.

The reason why I am posting here is because I hope you guys may be able to help me since you were able to create this program and probably understand port forwarding a bunch more than me. So, first off, let me write out how the network in my house is currently set up:

ISP -> Modem (provided by the isp) -> Cisco Firewall -> Netgear Switch -> Lynskis Router -> My computer

Now, I'm pretty sure that the ports have been opened successfully on the lynskis router, but my question is could any of the previous layers still keep the port from being recognized as open? I know a little about networking but not enough, and it was my dad who set up our home network, so I was wondering if you guys may be able to direct me in the proper path as to how to be able to ultimately open the port 25565.

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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2011, 03:45:56 PM »
No problem, be more than happy to help :wink:

First off, this is your problem
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ISP -> Modem (provided by the isp) -> Cisco Firewall -> Netgear Switch -> Lynskis Router -> My computer

Your modem is most likely a router as well, the cisco firewall sounds to be a router to. The netgear you say is just a switch, so no problem there. Then you have the linksys. SO you have at least2 maybe 3 routers hooked up.

So follow this
http://www.pcwintech.com/how-setup-two-or-more-routers-together-port-forwarding-port-triggering

and it should get you going. Now the guide shows how to setup 2 routers, but its the same for no matter how many you have.

Your goal is this,
All incoming connections from the internet to your modem get sent to the cisco, from there they get sent to the linksys. And then your port forwarding will work. :wink:

If your wondering why being behind multiple routers can cause trouble give this a quick read as well.
http://www.pcwintech.com/what-port-forwarding-nutshell

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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2011, 03:54:21 PM »
Mk that makes sense, pretty sure I can do it successfully, only thing is how do I connect to the modem and firewall?  :undecided:

Do I have to connect to them directly? If so, that might be difficult because I have a PC desktop >.<

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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2011, 03:57:29 PM »
Normally you can connect to them yes, but I am not sure if you will be able to make it to the modem.

The first step is to log into the linksys. Go to the status page. On the status page find the Internet IP. Write it down.

Now on that same page is the gateway, that ip is the one you will use to login to the next router.

When you do see if it is the cisco or the modem :wink:

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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2011, 04:01:43 PM »
Shane,

For some reason I can't get into XXX.XXX.XX.X (my gateway), but I am able to get into my ip which is XXX.XXX.XX.X

I added some attachments to maybe help you help me? lol :)
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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2011, 04:06:15 PM »
Your computers gateway is 192.168.10.1 which logs you into the linksys.

The linksys got its internet IP from 192.168.64.1. So this will be the cable plugged into the WAN or Internet port on the back of the linksys.

What does this plug into on the other end? Also why do you have the netgear switch? Since all your computers should be connecting to the linksys, why do you have a switch setup between the linksys and the cisco?

Also if it is the cisco that ip is pointing to I wonder if it is set to log in on a different port or ip?

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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2011, 04:12:38 PM »
Shane,

The cable that connects from the linksys goes to the netgear switch. I'm not too sure why we have a switch. My dad is a network architect so I guess he figured we needed it.

From what I know, from the switch we have several different outgoing cables, most of them stay in the office (outside of the house about 10-15 feet away) while two of them go into the house, one to the linksys router, and one to another switch(or router not sure what this one is) which connects to a console and dvd player.

However, all the computers are connected to the linksys, 2 by wireless, one is wired (mine)

Could it be that the netgear switch has it's own ip that I need to find? If needed, I can take one of the laptops and connect directly to the netgear switch.

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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2011, 04:17:03 PM »
Or the netgear is just a switch to give more ports from the cisco.

The network there sounds very out of the norm lol.

The linksys must be there to give wireless. Then you the non wireless connecting and getting their IP from the cisco.

This is not going to be fun to get working :tongue:

Not sure why the cisco is even in the setup unless he is setting up some filtering and monitoring for the network.

First thing is first. You need to be able to log into everything. The modem, the cisco and the linksys. So far the linksys is covered.

What model is the cisco? I can research it and see if there is even a web interface for it to log into or is a software program from cisco has to be used. :wink:

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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2011, 04:28:47 PM »
The network there sounds very out of the norm lol.

This is not going to be fun to get working :tongue:

lol, tell me about it >.<

Mk so here are the models:

Netgear - Fast Ethernet Switch FS108
Cisco Firewall - Cisco PIX 501 Firewall
Modem - Cisco Cable Modem 2100

I took some pictures to maybe help with visualizing the layout. From the modem there is a yellow cable connecting to the firewall. From firewall there is one orange cable going to the netgear switch (it's on the far right in the one of the pictures). The cable with the green cover on the switch (on the far left of the switch) goes to the linksys router.

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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2011, 04:41:30 PM »
OK the good news is the cable modem is just a modem and not a router. So the firewall is the only one we need to get into.

Try http://192.168.1.1

See if it will load for you. Otherwise we might need
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/pix/pix62/quick/guide/501quick.html#wp67685

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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 04:54:02 PM »
Nope, didn't work x\ I also tried https://XXX.XXX.X.X/startup.html, and that didn't work either.

Should I go over and connect a laptop to it and try "https://XXX.XXX.X.X/startup.html" then?

Thank you,
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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2011, 04:55:09 PM »
Yeah, try getting out from the linksys, have the laptop get its IP from the firewall, and lets see if we can get logged in :wink:

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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 05:12:33 PM »
Connected to firewall at the moment, but it's not letting me access it.

I've tried the following:

http://XXX.XXX.X.X
https://XXX.XXX.X.X
https://XXX.XXX.X.X/startup.html
http://XXX.XXX.X.X
https://XXX.XXX.X.X
https://XXX.XXX.X.X/startup.html

Neither of those worked. My current ip is XXX.XXX.X.X and my gateway is XXX.XXX.X.X

Thank you,
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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2011, 05:14:57 PM »
OK the web interface port might have been changed.

Try this, download my simple internet tools :wink:
http://www.pcwintech.com/simple-internet-tools-dozen-simple-helpful-tools

In it is a port scanner. Scan all the ports for 192.168.64.1

Lets see what it pulls up. Then we can try the ports it finds, like http://192.168.64.1:8080

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Re: Port Forwarding Help For Minecraft (25565)
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2011, 05:34:31 PM »
Fun fact for ya, it seems as though the computer is running off the alternate configuration in the ip settings. Weird thing is that when I set it to automatically detect, I lost connection. It said I was connected to an "Unidentified network" and it showed that I wasn't connected to the internet but was connected to the network O.o

Downloading program :)
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